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Laodicean Christian Sellout Amy Grant Glories In Her LGBT Fan Base

During her first gay press interview, the Grammy winner reflected on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, and her “compassion” for gay marriage.

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May 6, 2014

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You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now.

Amy Grant loves receiving adoration, praise and financial reward from the lost and dying who attend her shows. She states that “it’s a honor” to perform at gay weddings. And never once does she open her mouth to tell her lost fans that without Jesus Christ they are on their way to Hell. This interview here, her first ever to the gay press, was an excellent opportunity to tell them about salvation in Jesus. She never mentions the Lord’s name one time. I wonder how that will play out at the Judgment Seat of Christ?

“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” 1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV)

PrideSource – During her first gay press interview, and for an entire hour, the Grammy winner reflected – with her usual sincerity and thoughtfulness – on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, her “compassion” for gay marriage and the unforgettable dinner she shared with out ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero.

When the biggest Christian music artist of all time is doing gay press, you know we’ve come a long way. Were you kept at bay from gay press beforehand, earlier in your career?

It never came up.

But you have obviously had a big gay following for quite sometime. Why have gay people connected to you in such profound ways?

All of us sometimes feel disenfranchised or, for whatever reason, like we’re just on the periphery or marginalized. People feel that for all kinds of reasons, and by the time you’ve lived any amount of life, I think anybody has had that experience somewhere. I remember doing concerts back in the early ’80s and going shopping with some of the singers that I was working with and one of them, Donna McElroy, had to get some makeup – and she’s African-American – and I said, “Hey, I’ll meet you back here.” I ran my errands and I came back and said, “Are you done?” She said, “No one’s waited on me.”

Christian singer Amy Grant happily receives the praise, adoration and financial benefits of her LGBT fan base, but she doesn’t have the guts to tell them that they are lost and headed to a Devil’s Hell.

Everybody is outside of some circle, but what I’ve always wanted to do is have a message of honesty and welcoming, and being willing to say this is the good, bad and the ugly. This is who I am. And if I’m saying that about myself, it’s like, jump in, the water’s fine. So I love that. I love that people connect to my music.

At this point in your career, are you at all concerned about people passing judgment on you for talking to gay press?

We all ultimately need to know that we’re loved, and I think it would be really crazy if you said, “I’m not going to talk to this group of people because someone’s looking on that’s not a part of the conversation and might have an opinion about it.” I mean, my whole life has been that. (Laughs) It takes all of our energy to navigate whatever road we’re on. What’s interesting is, this last year I was invited on Monday mornings to go to a woman’s house – also a songwriter, also a singer – and just have some time of quiet stillness all together. But her house wasn’t even quiet. There were workers there sometimes, or there was nowhere to get that was quiet.

As we were sitting there trying to get quiet, she said, “It never gets still, and so I’m not gonna get all rankled in my head. I’m just gonna say, ‘Well, there’s the noise of the person next door blowing off their driveway with that really load motor. There it is. There’s the sound of sirens going up and down the street.'” She said, “When we learn to observe without judgment, then we have the ability to observe and learn, or to observe and be.” And I said, “Do you know how exhausting it is to observe with judgment all the time? It’s just exhausting.” I have thanked her many times. We could all stand to hear that.

You came from a fairly strict religious upbringing, but it sounds like there’s been an evolution in the way you see people.

Well, I don’t know. When you say strict, that’s interesting. What do you mean by that? (Laughs) I mean, we went to church every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night.

You’re right. I should say diligently religious.

Yeah. I remember when we moved to Texas and my parents went to this really, I guess, conservative church – a Church of Christ – and something incredible was happening within that church community. I remember seeing this transformation in my mom and dad. I was old enough to remember that. What I remember about our home after that was that it was welcoming … to everybody.

To black people? To gay people?

Just to people.

Did you ever feel that you had to reconcile your Christian faith with your acceptance of homosexuality?

That’s not my life experience. In the same way, if you put my shoes on, you would go, “I thought this experience was going to be one way and it was totally different.” None of us has any idea what somebody’s life experience is like.

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Do you remember the first gay person you knew? Did you have a close gay friend?

Absolutely. But my first: maybe college. Someone might have just seemed theatrical or, I don’t know, effeminate, but when I was in high school – I graduated in ’78 – I had friends in high school who eventually said, “I’m living a gay lifestyle,” but they didn’t say it then. People were very private about their sexuality, period. Maybe not everywhere, but I just don’t remember, “I’m exploring this, I’m exploring that.”

When did you first know you had a gay fan base?

Probably by the time I was 18.

How did you know? Did a fan tell you his or her coming-out story?

No. Just from meeting people. I don’t know. I guess I’m kind of going, that was a long time ago. I’m 52. (Laughs) I’ve never even thought about it. It’s like saying, “There’s gray-haired people in the crowd, too.” If people come to my shows, this is what they say: “Wow, there are people of all ages and lifestyles in your crowd.” That’s what they always say. But then someone will come up and say, “You know, I saw a guy with a boa on,” and I’ll say, “Oh yeah, yeah, I’ve always had a big gay following.” (Laughs)

To me, I don’t give it a second thought. I remember the first time someone from the crew said, “I smell pot in the back of the crowd,” and I went, “Well, fantastic! Yay!” I’m so glad that just “people” are coming.

From photos I’ve seen and conversations I’ve heard, you seem to have established some close relationships with people in the Gay Friends of Amy Grant group on Facebook over the years. Can you describe your relationship with them?

When you’ve done something for a long time, there is a great familiarity that comes over the years. I will say that I have a couple of friends that I made – just because they came to shows for a long time – and I figure we must have some things in common because, of all the music we’re all attracted to, at least we share this music in common.

Weren’t you invited to perform at the wedding of one of your gay fans but couldn’t due to your schedule?

I was invited. I was honored to be invited. I have to tell you: Anytime somebody asks me to perform at a wedding, I say, “I do not have a good track record.” (Laughs) A lot of the weddings I’ve performed at, the marriages have ended poorly.

I recall seeing you perform with Melissa Etheridge for Lifetime’s “Women Rock!” special in 2000 and thinking, as a teenager struggling with his sexuality, “She’s performing with an openly lesbian performer; she’s throwing her gay fans a bone.”

You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now. It makes me realize that I don’t have any idea of what it would feel like every moment of my life to go somewhere and feel judged.

But you have felt judged, right? Judged for getting divorced. Judged for your pop crossover, even.

No, no. Do people from a distance have an opinion? Yeah, that’s human nature to have an opinion. Whatever was going on in a rag magazine, or whatever someone was saying behind my back or in a heated conversation, I was never in that circle. I wasn’t part of that conversation. I never, ever pursued one chat room. If there was an article or some argument – “I can’t believe you’re doing this” – I just never pursued it because I thought, “We don’t understand each other.”

There are a lot of times that I wind up in situations that I do not see eye to eye with somebody. And it doesn’t help to throw gas on the fire. Clearly they’re going to have their opinion. Carry on. And I’m gonna go do what I’m gonna go do.

I know you are not a political person.

Yeah, I’m not.

So how do you respond to people when they ask you about your feelings on gay marriage?

In the same way that I did not tell one person who I voted for. I don’t. I never talk about anything like that. I did tell Vince (Gill, her husband) the day after the election. (Laughs)

But I think my response is, I have had so many occasions in my life where I have felt really strongly about something – but that feeling has changed. Those feelings change about different situations, and so because I’m a public person – and because I want always to bring people together – I really do say this is a world that’s unfamiliar to me and I am always trying to observe with compassion.

This isn’t a cut-and-dry issue for you, then.

Well, nothing is cut-and-dry. You know, one of the most fascinating dinners I’ve ever spent sitting next to somebody I had not met was at a large function with my family. We were all seated with place cards; it was a large group and I introduced myself to the fellow next to me. It was Anthony Romero (executive director of the ACLU). I mean, we didn’t line up our views; I just said, “Oh my goodness.” And he said, “I think they probably thought this was going to be very funny having us sit next to each other.” (Laughs)

I just said, “Tell me about your life.” He asked me the same thing. He told me good things about his job and hard things about his job. It was two human beings that have had very different lifestyles sitting next to each other and sharing life. Given 10 choices, would Anthony and I choose the same things? Maybe so. Maybe not. But I felt so changed by that. And what I really felt was, well … I … (pauses)

What did you feel?

Well, I kept his card for a long time, and I hoped that our paths would cross again. I felt a lot of compassion for his parents, first-generation immigrants, and he described his childhood and what it was like. I went, “This makes total sense that he has invested his life coming to the aid of the people in his world that are disenfranchised because, for a whole different set of reasons, his parents were marginalized.”

And you found that inspiring?

Yes. You know what, we all face challenges in our life that we didn’t anticipate, and the most important thing is that we not face them alone. To me, if there’s anything that comes out of this conversation, in the same way that a relationship cannot be nurturing if it’s competitive, it’s this: When you don’t understand something, you can either default to judgment or you can default to compassion. Those take you down completely different roads.

Are you speaking about yourself?

Yeah, and that’s really … ahh, I’m just talking about life in general. This is interesting because I have never done an interview where it feels every question is saying, “Tell me I’m OK.” That’s what feels like the underlying energy behind the questions, and I’m just going, “That’s a powerful kind of energy” – and for different reasons. Maybe not sexuality. Because that’s what every person’s crying out for. Anyway, sometimes a good night’s sleep helps for more concise answers.

It’s just that we’re living lives that are different from each other. It’s like two people sitting at a dinner table having a long conversation. If you and I were facing each other at a different table and we walked away and somebody asked us to describe where we were, my entire view was behind your head. I mean, I’m gonna describe the place differently than you. That’s just true about all of life and really, I’m trying to listen and learn and in a way have a great opportunity to try to understand the fan base that comes to a show. I’m even more glad they feel welcome. Even more glad after this. Can I say one thing?

Of course.

I know that the religious community has not been very welcoming, but I just want to stress that the journey of faith brings us into community, but it’s really about one relationship. The journey of faith is just being willing and open to have a relationship with God. And everybody is welcome. Everybody. source – PrideSource

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NTEB PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: After Capturing The Oval Office, Elon Musk Is Now The Richest And Most Powerful Man In The World, So What Happens Now?

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Donald Trump is the president-elect, and with him comes the richest man in the world, Elon Musk who wants to colonize Mars. How will all this play out?

A number of Democratic figures have condemned what they say is the power Elon Musk wields over the president-elect and Congress ahead of a looming government shutdown. Some Democrats have suggested Musk is the actual ‘president’ and that Trump is following his lead in the negotiations. Sounds like sour grapes to me, but one thing’s for sure, Elon Musk has just become the most-powerful man in the world with the Oval Office in his back pocket. The only question is, what will he do with it?

“And Elon the Zebulonite died, and was buried in Aijalon in the country of Zebulun.” Judges 12:12 (KJB)

On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, on a Podcast a few weeks back, we said this “Elon Musk is Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Flagler, Jay Gould, John D. Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan all rolled into a single person.” That has aged really well, but let’s add a tweak. None of those men had the Oval Office. I am not talking about access to the Oval, or influence in the Oval , I am talking about having the Oval Office and Musk has it in his pocket. In 2016, Donald Trump did not need help to become president, he was a force of nature all on his own. But this time around is different, this time Trump’s way was prepared for him, purchased for him by Elon Musk, it’s a ‘bicycle built for two’ as the old song goes. On the one hand, America could be entering into a time of unprecedented peace and prosperity, but with all the turbulence raging across the globe that’s probably not likely. And yes, the markets will react favorably, but the US is under a literal mountain of debt. Hello, crypto? On the other hand, Elon Musk could actually be setting the stage for the New World Order to finally take control of it all. Just remember one thing, the biblical Mark of the Beast is a piece of technology implanted inside your body that controls all buying and all selling. Human implantable technology and finance is the beating heart of Elon Musk’s wheelhouse. Did you know that the name ‘Elon’ is a Bible name and it means ‘mighty oak’? One thing is for sure, the ride has begun and it’s gonna be wild. On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, we tell you all about it plus updates on the drones and the latest from Israel.

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THE PRESIDENT THAT WASN’T THERE: Joe Biden Comes To An Ignominious End As The Third Term Proxy Presidency Of Barack Obama Comes To A Close

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For 4 years, the White House has run a con game that Joe Biden was a functioning leader, in reality it was the presidency by proxy of Barack Obama in his third term pulling the strings

Earlier today, the usually conservative Wall Street Journal ran a blistering story on how the entire Biden administration spent 4 years conning America that Joe Biden was actually in charge and calling the shots. It’s a stunning article, a segment captured below, and we encourage you to read the whole thing on wsj.com. What they left out, however, was that it was way more than just a con game, it was the literal third term of Barack Obama, made possible by the president who wasn’t there, Joe Biden.

“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” Proverbs 29:2 (KJB)

We have told you before Joe Biden was ever sworn in that the whole reason he was chosen was because of his highly diminished mental faculties, that way he could be propped up before the cameras while Barack Obama called all the shots like the Wizard of Oz from behind the curtain. Biden went bad, to worse, to “replace him with Kamala” in sickeningly realistic fashion. The main stream media did their part by refusing to report on Biden’s obvious ‘absent while present’ speech patterns, weird gesture and motions, and everyone’s favorite thing to pretend is not happening, his walking away from the podium as if he had no idea where he was. He had no idea. What does all this have to do with drones over New Jersey? The same government that told you Joe Biden was fine is the same government telling you there is nothing to worry about with the drones. That’s the memo.

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FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: The president’s slide has been hard to overlook. While preparing last year for his interview with Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who investigated Biden’s handling of classified documents, the president couldn’t recall lines that his team discussed with him. At events, aides often repeated instructions to him, such as where to enter or exit a stage, that would be obvious to the average person. Biden’s team tapped campaign co-chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, a Hollywood mogul, to find a voice coach to improve the president’s fading warble.

Biden, now 82, has long operated with a tightknit inner circle of advisers. The protective culture inside the White House was intensified because Biden started his presidency at the height of the Covid pandemic. His staff took great care to prevent him from catching the virus by limiting in-person interactions with him. But the shell constructed for the pandemic was never fully taken down, and his advanced age hardened it.

The structure was also designed to prevent Biden, an undisciplined public speaker throughout his half-century political career, from making gaffes or missteps that could damage his image, create political headaches or upset the world order.

The system put Biden at an unusual remove from cabinet secretaries, the chairs of congressional committees and other high-ranking officials. It also insulated him from the scrutiny of the American public.

For the past 3.5 years, Barack Obama has been operating his Third Term through the rented body of Joe Biden. Listen to what he said to Stephen Colbert about how that term would function. Now you know why Democrats nominated a mentally-impaired person. pic.twitter.com/qGgviU6Kek

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The strategies to protect Biden largely worked—until June 27, when Biden stood on an Atlanta debate stage with Trump, searching for words and unable to complete his thoughts on live television. Much of the Democratic establishment had accepted the White House line that Biden was able to take the fight to Trump, even in the face of direct evidence to the contrary.

On July 13, Biden held an uncomfortable call with a group of Democratic lawmakers called the New Democrat Coalition, aimed at reassuring them about his ability to stay in the race.

The president told participants that polling showed he was doing fine. He became angry when challenged, according to lawmakers on the call. At one point, Biden looked up and abruptly told the group he had to go to church. Some lawmakers on the call believed someone behind the camera was shutting it down. Biden dropped out of the race eight days later. READ MORE

The sad and strange decline of Joe Biden

Joe Biden dropped out of the race to become the next president, after a series of gaffes in 2024 raised concerns about his age, and a disastrous presidential debate performance caused alarm within the Democratic party.

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The Drone Sightings Are A Psyop From Our Government, How Long Will It Last And When Will It Claim Its First Victim? The Clock Is Ticking.

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December 18, 2024

Geoffrey Grider

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Mysterious drones have been hovering in the skies above New Jersey and other states in the Northeast for weeks, alarming residents and prompting lawmakers to demand answers. Is a human sacrifice coming?

There is good news and bad news on the drone sightings front, but you probably won’t like it. The good news is that it’s not aliens from Outer Space causing the stir, that’s obvious at this point, and the bad news? It’s not aliens from Outer Space behind the drone sightings, it’s a psyop from the government. We’d be better off if it were aliens, because at least in that case we would have a clearly defined adversary. But a psyop from some shadowy CIA-related officially unavowed governmental program being run by the Deep State? Man, oh man, you can’t trust anyone in that scenario, no one. Not even Trump, sorry MAGA.

“And they were more than forty which had made this conspiracy.” Acts 23:13 (KJB)

Let me share with you a principle of the rules of engagement when the Deep State is running a psyop, there is always a sacrifice involved, a human sacrifice. Somebody has to notably die in order to ‘seal the deal’. Let me explain what I mean. Back when Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA were starring their 6-month billion dollar war in the streets back in 2020, a black man by the name of David Dorn (say his name!) was ritually sacrificed by black Black Lives Matter operatives. That event kicked-off the riots. Remember what happened on January 6th, when the ‘attack on the Capitol’ took place? Ashli Babbitt was executed in cold blood by a police officer, and when the ‘trial’ was held to investigate her murder, no information was released until it was all over and Lieutenant Michael Byrd was pronounced ‘not guilty’. David Dorn and Ashli Babbitt were the necessary sacrifices required by Deep State operatives who conduct events like these. If you think of these things in the context of the Bohemian Grove and the Skull and Bones Society, it will all start to come into focus for you. It’s 322 all the way.

Pentagon Press Secretary REFUSES to explain why the CIA/FBI drone briefing remains classified, but tells you there’s nothing to worry about. Our government is 100% behind these drones, using companies like Palantir to run these nighttime operations. Lockdown is coming. pic.twitter.com/73I9OsayCc

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We can rule out aliens from Outer Space, a search for ‘missing’ radioactive materials, a hunt for a dirty bomb, Russian spies, Chinese agents or anything else of that nature because there is zero evidence to support any of that. Seriously, a search for radioactive material but the searches are only conducted at night? Pul-eeese, that’s just nonsense. But what does make sense, as we told you on Monday, is a secretive government program to wreak havoc using third-party companies like Palantir and the Hivemind, Shield AI, OpenAI, Google and others. Look, we have already lived through a bioweapon called COVID, created in American labs and intentionally released, a ‘vaccine’ that was nothing but gene editing software, and a lockdown that put four-fifths of the world on hold until they were ready to release us. Over seven million people have already died in these events, and the past is prologue as Ecclesiastes 1:9 (KJB) tells us. Nothing I have said so far is much wilder than what we’ve already lived through.

This Palantir Drone Commercial is 33 seconds long

Who’s behind the drone sightings? Palantir or other companies just like them, that’s who.

I don’t know how much longer the drone sightings will continue, like the Las Vegas Shooter, it could just disappear tomorrow without a word. But I know this. Everyone one in the Pentagon and in the Biden White House are all furiously denying anything is going on, delaying answering real questions for as long as possible, and defending the party line that there is ‘nothing to see here’. That tells you that they all know the truth, and they have no desire to tell us. If it were aliens or foreign agents, our military would be immediately dispatched, but they’re not. Washington isn’t even the least be interested in solving the problem or answering the question, any question, and that tells you they are behind it.

I don’t wish it on anyone, but get ready for the sacrifice.